Monday, 8 October 2012

Still at the being ignored stage

A good friend included on a recent email, this comment:

"...I thought you might like this top quote. Reminds me of you ! .."

That link is for one of the best Steve Jobs (or Apple) quotes, which is of course a great source of inpiration for me:

“Here's to the crazy ones, the misfits, the rebels, the troublemakers, the round pegs in the square holes... the ones who see things differently -- they're not fond of rules... You can quote them, disagree with them, glorify or vilify them, but the only thing you can't do is ignore them because they change things... they push the human race forward, and while some may see them as the crazy ones, we see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do.”

You can see that text on its original form in the 1997 Apple Add (btw, this is the version with Steve Jobs doing the voiceover, which is much better than the original)

Now, having just had two StackExchange questions removed by its moderators (see here and here) and based on the still limited reaction that currently exists to the O2 Platform, I can say (from experience) that what actually happens for a while is that you are indeed IGNORED :)

I think reality is more like:  "...First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win ...".(Wikipedia is not sure if that is Mahatma Gandhi quote)

To be honest, I don't really care about the win bit, I want to change the way software is developed and make it more secure, so there is not really a winner or looser.

Also, (so far) I have not been of receiving end of laughs. What I get a log is: '... that looks cool/powerful, but I have no idea how to use or apply it to my problelm...' :)

So maybe a better sequence of events is:

"...First they ignore you, 
        ... then they are puzzled at you, 
            .... then they resist change, 
                   ....then then change  "



Diarmaid said...

Any chance you have a copy of the removed questions you can repost?

I don't think you can see deleted posts unless you're a 10k+ user

Dinis Cruz said...

I have them on this blog :)

one of the SO posts was this one (posted as a question):

The other was this one (posted as a Question and Answer):

For the 2nd case I was trying to follow their own guidelines:

Diarmaid said...

Unusual that they were removed then, have you asked any of the mods why?

PS very impressed with your work on real time static analysis, I'm doing something similar for Eclipse ATM, hoping to have an alpha version released for testing publicly soon. Very fun area to be coding in :)

Dinis Cruz said...

Yeah, I had a thread with one of the SO moderators. To be honest, I can see it from their point of view. O2 and FluentSharp are not widely known and it really shouldn't be the author of a tool to talk/blog/post about it :)

I view it like a challenge and I'll enjoy the day when there is an 'O2 Platform' tag on SO.

On your Eclipse stuff, let me know when you have something to try :)

Btw, do you have development cycles? I need to find an Eclipse Plugin developer to work with me on the creation of a TeamMentor plugin like the one I created for VisualStudio, so let me know if you are interested in (or know somebody good)

Diarmaid said...

Is the plugin you're looking to create for eclipse similar to ?

I don't really know any eclipse developers, but it's the time of year where students in my university are picking out what they'd like to do over the next 9 months as their final year project. I could direct a few of them at this blog and see if any are interested in working with you on this?

Dinis Cruz said...

Yes, please point your students here :)

Here are couple more ideas for them:

Diarmaid said...

I've mentioned it to a few of my fellow students - I'm still an Undergrad too :) I'll ask the project coordinating lecturer if he can send an email around, also.

As for my Eclipse plugin, I made a quick video which will have to do in place of "something to try" for now. This is being rolled out to some developers in work shortly, but I'll need to get management to sign off on its release before I can do anything more public seeing as it's being created on company time.

The video is online here - - would love to hear what you think.

Dinis Cruz said...

great video, here are some questions for you